# Context, believe it or not, this the full context, nothing else, just this: [20:38:58] (Xan) Pc anyone about to buy a knarr from me want to pick the wood type before I finish this one? Would normally be a 1 silver charge for custom wood order. [20:40:58] (Xan) WTT sleep powders for a knarr [20:41:09] (Cel) pc how many? [20:49:52] (Ind) PC Mavodo offers cheaper ships and good deals. [20:50:13] (Xan) pc anyone still doing the life transfer enchanting? [20:50:14] (Ind) PC And doesn't charge a penny for a custom woodtype. [20:50:24] (Ind) PC Siegfried does it. # Jpopper is a very old and very rich player. Many current GMs were players too and they know each other since many years, and it is quite visible they support each other. # And few minutes later I had to endure this conversation: Logging started 2020-06-09 [20:57:02] Hello! [20:57:09] Hi. [20:57:32] Am I in trouble? [20:57:40] Since we met before and we know each other, i will get straight to the subject [20:58:01] Please refrain from making comments like those you just made about Siegfried in Trade chat [20:58:21] Hmm I said Siegfried casts life transsfer. [20:58:30] As a player asked who does it. [20:58:36] You're not anyone's public advocate, and if you have anything to comment about someone's business, you are doing it in pm or using @name [20:58:57] [20:50:13] (Xan) pc anyone still doing the life transfer enchanting? [20:59:07] I answered this question. [20:59:15] Then about whoever it was you made the comments, you didn't mention what your answer was about whom [20:59:47] jpopper asked who casts life transfer, I said that Siegfried does it. [20:59:51] And since just before that you commented about people charging or not about wood type and such, it was all confusing [21:01:09] You got my point [21:01:10] No, I am confused now. If someone asks who does a certain service I am not allowed to reply? [21:01:57] As long as you say don't confuse people [21:02:09] [20:50:24] (Ind) PC Siegfried does it. [21:02:16] How did confuse anyone? [21:02:55] I fail to underestand what I did wrong, I provided informations useful for trading. [21:03:11] [21:49:51] (Ind) PC Mavodo offers cheaper ships and good deals. [21:50:13] (Ind) PC And doesn't charge a penny for a custom woodtype. [21:50:22] (Ind) PC Siegfried does i [21:03:36] [20:38:58] (Xan) Pc anyone about to buy a knarr from me want to pick the wood type before I finish this one? Would normally be a 1 silver charge for custom wood order. [21:03:55] [20:50:13] (Xan) pc anyone still doing the life transfer enchanting? [21:03:59] those lines came one after another; where does it say what Siegfried does? from there anyone will understand Siegfried charges for wood type [21:04:01] Did he got a similar warning? [21:04:04] Yes, i read Trade [21:04:23] Stated 2 topics and I replied to both. [21:04:30] And I'm talking about your comments; do YOu sell ships? [21:04:44] No, but I know ho sells it for 2/3 price of jpopper. [21:04:58] No, then why advertising Mavodo's to ruin Jpopper's trade? [21:05:07] Because he sells cheaper? [21:05:16] I do not advertize. [21:05:27] So? if you want to provide such information, you are doing it in pm or using @ name for a specific player [21:05:27] I check offers and pick cheapest. one. [21:05:39] Yeah, do it for yourself [21:05:47] Also jpopper broke the rules of the trade channel. [21:05:50] From now on, you weren't picking anything now [21:05:55] He asked everyone to pick a woodtype. [21:06:14] She didn't break anything, please do not teach me the rules [21:06:15] I can't pick best offers ad inform people about them? [21:06:31] No, you're not the official public informer [21:06:57] So I am allowed to ask people what tapestries should I make on the trade channel? [21:07:10] I am trying to underestand. [21:07:12] Only if you sell them, and if that's your business [21:07:29] Oh, you understand SO well [21:07:44] So, for clarification, if I know someone who gives better offer I am not allowed to inform people on trade channel about it? [21:07:59] Plus your habits to make comments about people with disabilities in GL, like you did few days ago [21:08:00] No, I don't. That's why I ask. [21:08:12] Not true. [21:08:17] You can inform them in pm or using @name [21:08:28] And it was already cleared with a Chat Moderator. [21:08:45] I am a person with disability myselg. [21:08:57] And it is very hard for me to communicate with people. [21:09:09] Well, I am the Lead Chat Moderator, and you having a disability doesn't mean you can insult other people with conditions, in any way [21:09:33] You're not the only one person with disabilities in Wurm, and everyone is treated equally here [21:09:39] I didnn't insulted anyone. I really was convinced Mavodo has some bipolar problems. [21:09:53] As he changed his attitude by 180 degree in 1 minute. [21:10:10] And I never said anything insulting to people with bipolar problems. [21:10:18] So i hope we won't need to have this discussion again, you also are a very intelligent person, so I know you are understanding me well [21:10:39] I am intelligent person so I can explain you photoelectic efect, but I lack mirror neurons. [21:11:09] And honestly now I think many people do the same thing I do, on the trade channel yet I am only one punished. I am checking logs right now to compare. [21:11:28] Well, then use the common sense rule: of you do not have anything nice to say to or about someone, then don't say anything [21:11:33] After I was banned for a bridge suggestion I am constantly stressed I am on an edge of being banned and everyone from staff hates me. [21:11:47] Your common sense comes from your mirror neurons. [21:12:02] My common sense is common sense, period [21:12:04] I do learn human behaviour by comparison and inquiry, and it doesn't go well it seems. [21:12:45] You are angry at me because I did what many people do everyday on trade channel. Honestly I am sad and very stressed. [21:12:56] As I pay for this game and I don't to be banned. [21:13:01] Then again, try and see how others would react in a similar situation, then do it yourself [21:13:17] Especially that I am now ill myself and there is nothing I can do besides reading and playing. [21:13:37] We all pay for this game, is a player driven economy, everyone has the right to sell or try to buy at their own prices [21:13:51] It is really easy to say from a neurotypical person, like a balerina telling an obese person to just try stand on your fingers. [21:14:12] Is not your call to advertise what others sell cheaper or more expensive or orange with green spots [21:14:23] We should have a right to the information about best offers. [21:14:55] Especially when it is easy too compare. jpopper sells 1 cage for 1s, Mavodo gives 3 cages for free. [21:15:02] is not your call to do that, so do not do it anymore, thank you [21:15:22] Have a nice day, and I hope next time we will chat for better reasons! [21:16:36] It is completely irrational for me. [21:17:06] I don't underestand it, I bet I could find numerous examples of something similar to what I did. [21:17:11] many things are irrational in this world and in real world, for all of us, and we have to live with them [21:17:38] This is not how ASD people work. [21:17:44] You could find examples, that doesn't mean they are welcomed that the player wasn't spoken to [21:18:24] that;s it, and I am sorry, we are trying to offer the best hame experience for everyone, we cannot make different rules for people with different conditions [21:18:33] game* [21:18:38] I wrote ecoomy systems for RPG games. [21:19:11] Wurm has a player driven economy, nothing to be written by a certain person [21:19:21] But believe or not, never played a game when offer comparison and information would be not allowed. [21:19:46] You are playing one now, each and every game has its own specifics [21:20:29] Disallowing offer comparision is wrong, and I can't see it on any rule set, also can't see advertizing other persons illegal. [21:20:53] I will try to obey your request as best as I can. [21:20:59] But I do not agree with it. [21:21:14] Thank you, Playune, you can be very easonable when you want [21:21:31] It is similar situation with bridge suggestion, no rules has been broken but the ban was isssued. [21:22:21] When a GM is asking you to follow a directive, you have to follow it [21:22:26] And jpopper is ruining his own business himself, 1s for a cage is an absurd price, everyonne knows it. I think the colour picking thing was an attempt to raise interest. [21:22:43] Most likely [21:23:14] But is her business, if she sells with 1s/cage, it means there are people who buy them for that price [21:23:30] Not necessarily. [21:23:36] You know what does grep command does? [21:23:58] Anyway, thank you for your cooperation, I really hope we will chat for better reasons next time [21:24:20] Is your ruling official? [21:24:43] Can I discuss it with a higher instance or you will be angry? [21:24:55] Higher instance means Enki [21:25:11] You seem angry now, and I think you are very passionate about the issue. [21:25:24] And is your right to do so, please send him a pm on forum, is the way to do it [21:25:34] Angry? no, but I have to go [21:25:40] Yes, but I want to know if you will have problem with this. [21:25:45] I don't want GMs dislike me. [21:25:48] And i was telling you goodbye in aploite manner [21:26:29] Ah well, I am going to be banned for something I don't get anyways. [21:26:34] I will not have any problems, if Enki will consider i was wrong, i will get back to you and tell you you are allowed to advertise and make comments for others in Trade [21:26:35] Hhave a good dat,. [21:27:02] I feel like I am on a death row, now yo speak I insult disable people etc. [21:27:19] You need to go then go, I do not keep you. [21:27:21] I was talking to you, not banning you; if you disobey what you were told, then there can be penalties, yes [21:27:23] Good day. [21:27:35] Hah I disobeyed order Daciana never gave me! [21:27:40] Good bye! # I tried several times to use some reasoning to the Wurm staff, explain them how do ASD people think and that we don't want any douche passes, but we require clear communication and clear answers to our questions.